Author Topic: The use of accessing unattended PC's  (Read 8049 times)

Vicky12

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The use of accessing unattended PC's
« on: November 28, 2011, 02:29:39 AM »

The remote PC has to be on the "on state" 24/7 in order for TeamViewer to be able to access to that PC.
I wonder if anyone with a clear mind would do that.

A flash stick serves the need much better if one must be absent from one's own PC for a few days or longer.

What is the use of accessing unattended PC's 24/7 as TV claims?

Phred

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Re: The use of accessing unattended PC's
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 10:10:23 AM »
That seems a strange question, Vicky.

It's the purpose of TV to access hosting computers remote from where you are - at any time, isn't it?
Turn the hosting computer's screen off and a substantial portion of the system's unnecessary power consumption goes away.

'A flash stick'?  How do you mean?  A memory stick can hold your data?  How current would it be?  How many of your user accounts?  Please expand.

There are now 'lights-out' controllers that can power up distant computers that are switched off.  That could be useful for activating a TV host session if you think 24/7 is inappropriate.
HP servers have long had the option.

Vicky12

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Re: The use of accessing unattended PC's
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 06:25:30 PM »
Thanks, Phred.

That seems a strange question, Vicky.
Not a stange question, Phred, but rather a clarification of my own thinking.

It's the purpose of TV to access hosting computers remote from where you are - at any time, isn't it?
Yes.  It is TV's purpose.  And it is the goal all softwares of this kind want to achieve.   "Its purpose" does not equal "it is."


Turn the hosting computer's screen off and a substantial portion of the system's unnecessary power consumption goes away.
Yes.  You are right.   How do you turn the screen off?    Hibernation?   Can TV start the hibernating PC?    Or, suspention?   Can TV start the PC if the suspention is terminated by accidental power off?
The term "access unattended 24/7" is correct if the answer is YES to these questions.


'A flash stick'?  How do you mean?  A memory stick can hold your data?  How current would it be?  How many of your user accounts?  Please expand.
The whole OS with all the files therein can be on either a flash stick or a memory stick and can be used anywhere and anytime as soon as you can put your hands on an operable computer.  It is as fresh as the host PC.  It is much easier.  And you don not have to rely on internet.

There are now 'lights-out' controllers that can power up distant computers that are switched off.  That could be useful for activating a TV host session if you think 24/7 is inappropriate.
HP servers have long had the option.
Yes.  But this is not of TV.   Just because of this, people think that TV can do the same by declaring "access unattended 24/7."
I think that TV ought to let people know the conditions of the term of "access unattended 24/7."


THANK YOU FOR THE CHAT.  REALLY APPRECIATE!

Vicky

Vicky12

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Re: The use of accessing unattended PC's
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 10:48:00 PM »
Thanks, Phred.

That seems a strange question, Vicky.
Not a stange question, Phred, but rather a clarification of my own thinking.

It's the purpose of TV to access hosting computers remote from where you are - at any time, isn't it?
Yes.  It is TV's purpose.  And it is the goal all softwares of this kind want to achieve.   "Its purpose" does not equal "it is."


Turn the hosting computer's screen off and a substantial portion of the system's unnecessary power consumption goes away.
Yes.  You are right.   How do you turn the screen off?    Hibernation?   Can TV start the hibernating PC?    Or, suspention?   Can TV start the PC if the suspention is terminated by accidental power out?
The term "access unattended 24/7" is correct if the answer is YES to these questions.


'A flash stick'?  How do you mean?  A memory stick can hold your data?  How current would it be?  How many of your user accounts?  Please expand.
The whole OS with all the files therein can be on either a flash stick or a memory stick and can be used anywhere and anytime as soon as you can put your hands on an operable computer.  It is as fresh as the host PC.  It is much easier.  And you don not have to rely on internet.

There are now 'lights-out' controllers that can power up distant computers that are switched off.  That could be useful for activating a TV host session if you think 24/7 is inappropriate.
HP servers have long had the option.
Yes.  But this is not of TV.   Just because of this, people think that TV can do the same by declaring "access unattended 24/7."
I think that TV ought to let people know the conditions of the term of "access unattended 24/7."


THANK YOU FOR THE CHAT.  REALLY APPRECIATE!

Vicky
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 10:56:34 PM by Vicky12 »

Phred

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Re: The use of accessing unattended PC's
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 07:38:44 AM »
I wonder if I'm going to get satisfaction out of this, but, Vicky - you seem to be implying that you should be able to access a Tv computer even when it's turned off.   ???  Then you'd be 'in a clear mind'.  Huh?

The meaning of 'access unattended 24/7' means that a remote, host, computer sitting idly can be communicated with at essentially any time, surely?  Tv says nothing about power consumption, heat generation, carbon dioxide production, atmospheric temperature rises, melting icecaps nor ('oooo, oooo') global warming  ::)  That's just not Tv's concern.

Or are you saying that a viable alternative to your entire computer setup is an operating system on a bootable USB stick?  My primary 'remote' computer setup would be four PCs, each with their own special purposes, connected by a LAN, with various CPU capabilities, and with a few terabytes of storage.  Can you imagine a USB stick simulating that?
And - it's up to date.  Imaging my four computers onto a USB stick, however you would do it, would take... how many days?

I think the principle has to be that if you can't take it with you, virtualise its presence.  Are we on the same page?